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PostPosted: 2006-11-06 11:09:11
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WELCOME TO THE WHYS & HOWS OF VEGETARIAN EATING

Just 15 years ago, finding cruelty-free versions of our favorite foods
was like a game of scavenger hunt. But today, virtually every major
grocery store sells animal-free foods like veggie burgers, creamy soy
and rice milks, meat-free chicken patties, soy sausage, and even
dairy-free ice creams. And restaurants - from fast-food to four-star
- are more frequently offering healthy and animal-friendly dishes.

Read on and see why increasing numbers of compassionate,
health-conscious, and earth-friendly people are eating vegetarian
fare and just how easy it can be!

Saving Animals, One Bite at a Time
Opening
The Birds
The Pigs
The Cows
The Aquatic Animals
The Free-Range Myth
Choosing Compassion Over Killing

Foods and Recipes
For Your Grocery Cart
New-to-You Foods
Vegetarian Dining
Vegetarian Recipes
Meal and Snack Ideas
Vegan Eatin on a Budget

Saving Ourselves, One Bite at a Time
Opening
Experts on Vegetarian Diets
Benefits of Vegetarian Eating
Is Milk a Natural?

The Easy Transition to Vegetarian Eating
Transition in Three Steps
Eye on the Prize
Quick Tips
Leading by Example

Saving the Earth, One Bite at a Time
Opening
Polluting the Water / Air
Wasting Resources
What About Fish?
Choosing Sustainability

And more...
Concerns About Protein
Veg Diets: Doing It Right
Protein, Iron, and Calcium
Vegetarian FAQ
Vegetarian Resources

http://www.tryveg.com/cfi/toc/


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PostPosted: 2006-11-07 11:00:35
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On Mon, 6 Nov 2006 11:09:11 -0000, pearl
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>WELCOME TO THE WHYS & HOWS OF VEGETARIAN EATING
>
>Just 15 years ago, finding cruelty-free versions of our favorite foods
>was like a game of scavenger hunt. But today, virtually every major
>grocery store sells animal-free foods like veggie burgers, creamy soy
>and rice milks, meat-free chicken patties, soy sausage, and even
>dairy-free ice creams. And restaurants - from fast-food to four-star
>- are more frequently offering healthy and animal-friendly dishes.
>
>Read on and see why increasing numbers of compassionate,
>health-conscious, and earth-friendly people are eating vegetarian
>fare and just how easy it can be!
>
>Saving Animals, One Bite at a Time
>Opening
>The Birds
>The Pigs
>The Cows
>The Aquatic Animals
>The Free-Range Myth
>Choosing Compassion Over Killing
>
>Foods and Recipes
>For Your Grocery Cart
>New-to-You Foods
>Vegetarian Dining
>Vegetarian Recipes
>Meal and Snack Ideas
>Vegan Eatin on a Budget
>
>Saving Ourselves, One Bite at a Time
>Opening
>Experts on Vegetarian Diets
>Benefits of Vegetarian Eating
>Is Milk a Natural?
>
>The Easy Transition to Vegetarian Eating
>Transition in Three Steps
>Eye on the Prize
>Quick Tips
>Leading by Example
>
>Saving the Earth, One Bite at a Time
>Opening
>Polluting the Water / Air
>Wasting Resources
>What About Fish?
>Choosing Sustainability
>
>And more...
>Concerns About Protein
>Veg Diets: Doing It Right
>Protein, Iron, and Calcium
>Vegetarian FAQ
>Vegetarian Resources
>
>http://www.tryveg.com/cfi/toc/
>


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PostPosted: 2006-11-07 11:03:09
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On Mon, 6 Nov 2006 23:14:58 -0000, pearl
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>rick wrote in message
news:J0P3h.3035$l25.1934@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>
>> pearl wrote in message
>> news:eino1g$lnj$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
>> > Roy. Just Roy. wrote in message
>> > news:1162829122.540757.22670@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
><..>
>> >> After the extraction, the remainder of the soybean is processed into
>> >> animal feed (soybean meal). You arent saving a single animal - all you
>> >> are doing is adding retail value to what was once just a livestock
>> >> crop. And I know several soybean farmers that would thank you
>> >> for doing so.
>> >
>> > Be real, Roy. You should know that only a fraction of the soy
>> > harvested is for human consumption - both the meal and milk.
>> ==============================
>> You really are this incredibly stupid, arent you fool? Meal is
>> the by-product of oil extraction that accounts for the vast
>> majority of edible oils in our foods, you ignorant dolt. Thats
>> 90% of ALL oilseed production, killer...
>> You just cant help being so willfully ignorant, can you
>> hypocrite?
>
>Projection.
>
>[Bullies project their inadequacies, shortcomings, behaviours
>etc on to other people to avoid facing up to their inadequacy
>and doing something about it (learning about oneself can be
>painful), and to distract and divert attention away from
>themselves and their inadequacies. Projection is achieved
>through blame, criticism and allegation; once you realise this,
>every criticism, allegation etc that the bully makes about their
>target is actually an admission or revelation about themselves.
>
>The Socialised Psychopath or Sociopath
>http://www.bullyonline.org/workbully/serial.htm ]
>

DimJim. Old Todger etc, are learning this to their cost.

Bullying doesnt work here.


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PostPosted: 2006-11-07 12:50:06
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Geoff wrote in message
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> On Mon, 6 Nov 2006 23:14:58 -0000, pearl
> wrote:
>
> >rick wrote in message
news:J0P3h.3035$l25.1934@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >>
> >> pearl wrote in message
> >> news:eino1g$lnj$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
> >> > Roy. Just Roy. wrote in message
> >> > news:1162829122.540757.22670@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> ><..>
> >> >> After the extraction, the remainder of the soybean is processed into
> >> >> animal feed (soybean meal). You arent saving a single animal - all you
> >> >> are doing is adding retail value to what was once just a livestock
> >> >> crop. And I know several soybean farmers that would thank you
> >> >> for doing so.
> >> >
> >> > Be real, Roy. You should know that only a fraction of the soy
> >> > harvested is for human consumption - both the meal and milk.
> >> ==============================
> >> You really are this incredibly stupid, arent you fool? Meal is
> >> the by-product of oil extraction that accounts for the vast
> >> majority of edible oils in our foods, you ignorant dolt. Thats
> >> 90% of ALL oilseed production, killer...
> >> You just cant help being so willfully ignorant, can you
> >> hypocrite?
> >
> >Projection.
> >
> >[Bullies project their inadequacies, shortcomings, behaviours
> >etc on to other people to avoid facing up to their inadequacy
> >and doing something about it (learning about oneself can be
> >painful), and to distract and divert attention away from
> >themselves and their inadequacies. Projection is achieved
> >through blame, criticism and allegation; once you realise this,
> >every criticism, allegation etc that the bully makes about their
> >target is actually an admission or revelation about themselves.
> >
> >The Socialised Psychopath or Sociopath
> >http://www.bullyonline.org/workbully/serial.htm ]
> >
>
> DimJim. Old Todger etc, are learning this to their cost.
>
> Bullying doesnt work here.

It sure doesnt. Karma reversing over their own dogma... ; [

Hope you dont mind my restoring the rest of my post here... (!)

/

Surely you remember this, rick:

The vegetable oil situation today is extremely depressing, with
a glut on the market and prices down around the world.
..
The world vegetable oil market is presently at a large surplus and
protein dominates the value of the oilseed complex. That puts a
high oil content seed like sunflower at a considerable disadvantage
to soybean in attracting acres.
..
http://tinyurl.com/y2nrk7

Given the soybeans low oil content, what are the major factors
that have contributed to the rise of soy oil as the worlds leading
oil? First, its highly competitive price, which is based both on the
relatively low costs of soybean and soy oil production, and on
the fact that soy oil is but one of two valuable products derived
from the soybean. Since about 1946, the demand for (and thus
the price of) soybean meal as a protein source for livestock has
increased faster than that for oil (Fig. ??). Thus, the large supply
of soy oil relative to the demand has kept prices low; in effect,
soy oil has almost become a by-product of the meal.
..
Soybean meal is by far the worlds most widely used oilseed
meal and protein concentrate in livestock and poultry feeds.
Its popularity is based on its low price, its high protein quantity
and quality (its amino acids are an excellent complement for
those of basic feed grains), and its good availability.
..
http://www.thesoydailyclub.com/SFC/historySC49.asp


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PostPosted: 2006-11-07 17:51:48
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Geoff wrote in message
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> On Mon, 6 Nov 2006 11:09:11 -0000, pearl
> wrote:
>
>>WELCOME TO THE WHYS & HOWS OF VEGETARIAN EATING

makes a tasty snack while you wait for special branch to knock on your door
doesnt it pete


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PostPosted: 2006-11-07 18:02:50
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On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 17:51:48 -0000, Jim Webster
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>
>Geoff wrote in message
>news:4qp0l21klohlqiejmrbhj7akpneug8p1jd@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 6 Nov 2006 11:09:11 -0000, pearl
>> wrote:
>>
>>>WELCOME TO THE WHYS & HOWS OF VEGETARIAN EATING
>
>makes a tasty snack while you wait for special branch to knock on your door
>doesnt it pete
>

For kicking you up the backside? Cant bullies take it any more! Shame
on you. Send them round, Ill stick the kettle on.


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PostPosted: 2006-11-07 11:57:32
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Geoff wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Nov 2006 23:14:58 -0000, pearl
> wrote:
>
> >rick wrote in message
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> >>
> >> pearl wrote in message
> >> news:eino1g$lnj$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
> >> > Roy. Just Roy. wrote in message
> >> > news:1162829122.540757.22670@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> ><..>
> >> >> After the extraction, the remainder of the soybean is processed into
> >> >> animal feed (soybean meal). You arent saving a single animal - all you
> >> >> are doing is adding retail value to what was once just a livestock
> >> >> crop. And I know several soybean farmers that would thank you
> >> >> for doing so.
> >> >
> >> > Be real, Roy. You should know that only a fraction of the soy
> >> > harvested is for human consumption - both the meal and milk.
> >> ==============================
> >> You really are this incredibly stupid, arent you fool? Meal is
> >> the by-product of oil extraction that accounts for the vast
> >> majority of edible oils in our foods, you ignorant dolt. Thats
> >> 90% of ALL oilseed production, killer...
> >> You just cant help being so willfully ignorant, can you
> >> hypocrite?
> >
> >Projection.
> >
> >[Bullies project their inadequacies, shortcomings, behaviours
> >etc on to other people to avoid facing up to their inadequacy
> >and doing something about it (learning about oneself can be
> >painful), and to distract and divert attention away from
> >themselves and their inadequacies. Projection is achieved
> >through blame, criticism and allegation; once you realise this,
> >every criticism, allegation etc that the bully makes about their
> >target is actually an admission or revelation about themselves.
> >
> >The Socialised Psychopath or Sociopath
> >http://www.bullyonline.org/workbully/serial.htm ]
> >
>
> DimJim. Old Todger etc, are learning this to their cost.
>
> Bullying doesnt work here.



rickys too gay to be a bully.


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PostPosted: 2006-11-07 13:05:08
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Geoff wrote
> On Mon, 6 Nov 2006 11:09:11 -0000, pearl
> wrote:
>
>>WELCOME TO THE WHYS & HOWS OF VEGETARIAN EATING
>>
>>Just 15 years ago, finding cruelty-free versions of our favorite foods
>>was like a game of scavenger hunt. But today, virtually every major
>>grocery store sells animal-free foods like veggie burgers

Ill keep this for the next time a vegan denies they claim cruelty-free
and animal-free are synonymous.


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