ANIMAL FORUM

> The false claims they made in the past about being Vegan have been
> exposed as lies, and they dont sound too humble about it!
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> There are still many companies selling ECOVER products as Vegan so
> they are obviously not too concerned about letting suppliers know the
> truth.
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> I am Very disappointed to learn this.
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> News
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> http://www.ecover.com/gb/en/News/Details.htm?ID=147
> Joint Statement by Ecover and The Vegan Society [ 03-08-2007 ]
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> Ecover respects the mission and values of the Vegan Society who
> acknowledge that Ecover has 27 years of history as a company dedicated
> to protecting the environment. The Vegan Society recognizes Ecover as
> a company of integrity. As such the Vegan Society and Ecover are
> working together to ensure both organisations principles are adhered
> to.
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> As a pioneering ecological company, Ecover

>Gloria wrote:
>> The false claims they made in the past about being Vegan have been
>> exposed as lies, and they dont sound too humble about it!
>>
>> There are still many companies selling ECOVER products as Vegan so
>> they are obviously not too concerned about letting suppliers know the
>> truth.
>>
>> I am Very disappointed to learn this.
>>
>>
>> News
>>
>>
>> http://www.ecover.com/gb/en/News/Details.htm?ID=147
>> Joint Statement by Ecover and The Vegan Society [ 03-08-2007 ]
>>
>> Ecover respects the mission and values of the Vegan Society who
>> acknowledge that Ecover has 27 years of history as a company dedicated
>> to protecting the environment. The Vegan Society recognizes Ecover as
>> a company of integrity. As such the Vegan Society and Ecover are
>> working together to ensure both organisations principles are adhered
>> to.
>>
>>
>> As a pioneering ecological company, Ecover

> On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:42:01 +0000, Broadback
> wrote:
> >harvest a crop, and see for yourself.
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> I have and you rarely find anything. You obviously have not.
>

> The false claims they made in the past about being Vegan have been
> exposed as lies, and they dont sound too humble about it!
>
> There are still many companies selling ECOVER products as Vegan so
> they are obviously not too concerned about letting suppliers know the
> truth.
>
> I am Very disappointed to learn this.
>
>
> News
>
>
> http://www.ecover.com/gb/en/News/Details.htm?ID=147
> Joint Statement by Ecover and The Vegan Society [ 03-08-2007 ]
>
> Ecover respects the mission and values of the Vegan Society who
> acknowledge that Ecover has 27 years of history as a company dedicated
> to protecting the environment. The Vegan Society recognizes Ecover as
> a company of integrity. As such the Vegan Society and Ecover are
> working together to ensure both organisations principles are adhered
> to.
>
>
> As a pioneering ecological company, Ecovers responsibility is to
> continuously improve the environmental performance of its products. A
> major challenge in developing an ecological washing and cleaning
> product is minimizing the effects of its use on aquatic systems.
> Therefore, the toxicity of these products on aquatic life must be
> measured.
>
> To establish the impact on the aquatic environment Ecover uses aquatic
> toxicity testing which uses water fleas (daphnia), as they are present
> throughout the world in any freshwater system. As far as Ecover is
> aware there are no alternative tests available that will more
> accurately measure the impact of cleaning products on the aquatic
> environment. Ecover far exceeds the EU definition on what constitutes
> animal testing as daphnia are invertebrates which do not have a
> central nervous system. The EU definition defines animal testing as
> the use of vertebrates, past a specified embryonic stage, (or larval
> stage in the case of fish and amphibians).
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> Ecover also uses a red blood cell test (Invittox RBC) on a
> non-systematic basis that uses blood from rabbit farming to test the
> effect of detergents on mucus membranes (to test skin
> compatability).This test is used only in those cases where alternative
> testing methods are unavailable. Given the shortage of human red blood
> cells Ecover believes the use of human blood would be unethical.
> However, as alternative testing methods are continuously investigated,
> Ecover is confident that the RBC test shall become obsolete over the
> next few years.
>
> Ecover respects the values of the Vegan Society and its members. Yet,
> as part of the companys core values, Ecover owes its customers
> transparency and will continue to hold on to its principles as it has
> done so for the past 27 years. Thus, our organizations have mutually
> decided to disagree on these points of principle and consequently,
> Ecover shall no longer carry the Vegan trademark.
>
> Both Ecover and the Vegan Society will continue to work on improving
> ways to promote respect for our environment and society.
>
> A Brief Summary of Facts:
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> 1. Aquatic Toxicity Testing: Ecover undertakes daphnia testing, as
> part of aquatic toxicity testing to establish impact on the aquatic
> environment. This is a recognised test that allows is to monitor our
> products against one of the key criteria for an ecological product,
> i.e. its impact on the aquatic environment.
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> 2. Invittox (RBC) Test (Protocol 99): On a non-systematic basis,
> Ecover has adopted this test as part of its product testing of skin
> compatibility of detergents. This test is a variation of the red blood
> cell test (RBC) and allows us to measure the effect of detergents on
> mucus membranes. The techniques used to conduct this testing can be
> found on the web site of the European Centre for the Validation of
> Alternative Methods, under Protocol 99
> (http://ecvam.jrc.it/index.htm). A mere 0.5 milliliters of rabbit
> blood is used as the source of red blood cells to conduct one complete
> test of a new product. In 2006 and 2007, Ecover performed 0 tests.
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> 3. Ecover Annual Output. In 2006, Ecovers annual output consisted of
> 19,625,296 units in liters (l.) and 2,587,935 units in kilograms (kg)
> giving a total of 22,213,231 units produced.
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