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PostPosted: 2004-11-21 11:31:12
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 10:11:21 +0000, Derek
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>According to your rule, if I were to buy from those farmers
>and coal workers, and benefit from them, I would be responsible
>for their deaths and be showing a contempt for human rights.

Specious nonsense.

The miners & farmers are there of their own free will.

The animals which were used to test *all* of your drugs were not.

[ludicrous inductive fallacies binned unread]


Youve been told this once already w.r.t your prisoner shaggy dog story.


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I dont have to deny anything, you *cannot* extrapolate a handful of
exceptions into a general case, especially when you manage to shoot your
own foot off by provide an example of where the test subjects in question
volunteered.

Which of course is an act of sentience.




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PostPosted: 2004-11-21 12:09:54
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 11:31:12 +0000, Greg Hennessy wrote:
>On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 10:14:01 +0000, Derek wrote:
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>>>> Personally, I believe forcing a child to eat a rotting corpse
>>>> is more akin to child abuse that feeding it with healthy
>>>> vegetable matter.
>>>
>>>Generally children need more forcing to eat vegetables than meat or fish.
>>
>>Ipse dixit and false. A child will more readily pick up and
>>eat a piece of fruit that a lump of rotting flesh.
>
>That sentence is both a fallacy of distraction and an inductive fallacy.

Once again youve merely announced I invoked a fallacy
without describing it fully. Any fool can do that, even you.
Why dont you try describing the fallacy, and then show
how it relates to my point, for a change?


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PostPosted: 2004-11-22 18:46:00
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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 07:50:46 +0000, Paul Hyett
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>In uk.politics.misc on Sun, 21 Nov 2004 at 12:11:39, Derek wrote :
>>On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 09:09:17 +0000, Paul Hyett
wrote:
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>>>In uk.politics.misc on Sat, 20 Nov 2004 at 19:42:11, Derek wrote :
>>>>
>>>>Personally, I believe forcing a child to eat a rotting corpse
>>>>is more akin to child abuse that feeding it with healthy
>>>>vegetable matter.
>>>
>>>Grin - vegetable matter is as dead as animal matter when you eat it
>>
>>No, it is not. Fruit ripens after being picked where meat rots.
>
>I thought we were talking about vegetables, not fruit?

vegetable matter Pay attention.

>>>not to mention having been immersed in boiling water for a while.
>>
>>I dont boil my fruit in water.
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>Never had home-made apple pie?

I boil it then, but that doesnt mean to say I boil all my
fruit.


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PostPosted: 2004-11-23 08:36:21
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In uk.politics.misc on Mon, 22 Nov 2004 at 18:46:00, Derek wrote :
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>>I thought we were talking about vegetables, not fruit?
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>vegetable matter Pay attention.

Since when did *vegetable* matter include *fruit*?
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>>>>not to mention having been immersed in boiling water for a while.
>>>
>>>I dont boil my fruit in water.
>>
>>Never had home-made apple pie?
>
>I boil it then, but that doesnt mean to say I boil all my
>fruit.

You brought up fruit, not I.
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